The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila for enlightening discourse that will change the way you think. This podcast breaks down the dichotomy of life through interviews and lectures that explain how individuals and culture are shaped by values, music, religion, and beyond. It will give you a new perspective and a modern understanding of your creativity, competence, and personality. For advertising opportunities please email:    Privacy Policy:

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Dr. Adrian Wooldridge is a political editor at The Economist and author of the new book ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World.’ In this episode, Dr. Wooldridge and I discuss how his new book has been received, the history of meritocracy, how IQ testing shaped educational policy, group-based judgement, and the importance of defending liberal individualism.  —Links— Follow Dr. Wooldridge on Twitter: ​​ ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World:’ More books by Dr. Wooldridge: —Chapters— [0:00] Intro [1:06] Reviews of ‘The Aristocracy of Talent’ [3:47] Measuring the Mind, History of IQ Testing, & British Education [7:22] 11+ System vs. the Modern Prolonged Educational System [10:22] Workplace Selection Tests  [11:58] IQ Literature & IQ Testing for the US Military [14:55] Michael Young’s ‘The Rise of the Meritocracy’ [16:58] Pareto Distribution, Matthew Principle, & Creative Achievement Tests [18:22] History of Meritocracy  [22:43] Conflating Moral Worth with Intellectual Ability [24:25] Conceptual Inadequacy & “Bell Curve Liberals” [29:45] Blank Slate Argument & Ethnic Differences in IQ Testing [34:59] White Working Class in England  [37:45] Perception of Meritocracy in the UK vs. US [42:21] Judging People as Group Members    [48:17] Distinction Between Affirmative Action & Diversity [51:36] Idea of Meritocracy as Propaganda for the Elite [54:00] Openness of Competition of Examinations [56:10] Foucault & the Complexity of Perception [59:55] Social Justice, Economic Efficiency & Growth Rates [1:05:35] Challenges to Western Dominance [1:10:59] European Ladder of Opportunity & Plutocracy  [1:14:32] Ethics: Levels of Analysis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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    Thu, 23 Jun 2022
  • 336 - 263. An Interview with my Father Walter Peterson 
    Mon, 20 Jun 2022
  • 335 - 262. Beyond Order Jordan B. Peterson Montreal | Host: Jonathan Pageau 
    Thu, 16 Jun 2022
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