00:00
Kiedy naprawdę do ciebie dotarło, że to nie była kontuzja, tylko moment, w którym mogłeś umrzeć? Gdyby nie transport śmigłowcem, gdybym jechał karetką, umarłbym. Straciłem trzy litry krwi. To, że przeżyłem jest największym zwycięstwem.
00:15
Kiedy wszedłeś na tor, czułeś się, że szczepijane? Za młody chyba niezbyt często byłem trzeźwy podczas wyścigów. Fizycznie się nie da pić dwie noce z rzędu i potem ścigać się w lesznie. Pijany byłeś tak samo dobry jak trzeźwy? Czasem się zastanawiam, czy nie byłem lepszy. Po alkoholu włączał mi się agresor. Było kilka imprez Monstera, gdzie zrobiło się naprawdę dziko.
00:34
Media podawały, że miałeś kasować około 9 tysięcy złotych za punkt, co przy idealnym wieczorze dawałoby 135 tysięcy złotych za jeden wieczór. To prawda?
00:44
Kochają cię tylko wtedy, kiedy zdobywasz punkty? Ostatecznie płacą nam za to, co robimy.
00:50
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00:59
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01:05
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01:32
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01:52
Rozmawiam z każdym, bo rozmowa dzisiaj ma największą siłę. Nie wybielam, nie upokarzam, nie uciekam od trudnych tematów, ale nie żyję tylko nimi. Nie ma znaczenia, czy ktoś jest politykiem, artystą czy biznesmenem. Każdy, kto ze mną rozmawia, rozmawia na tych samych zasadach. Dzisiaj możesz usłyszeć kogoś, kogo kochasz, a jutro kogoś, kogo kompletnie nie znosisz. A ja zrobię wszystko, żebyś poznał tego człowieka.
02:15
Dzień dobry Państwu. Przypominam, że rozmowy żurnalisty są przeznaczone dla osób pełnoletnich ze względu na występującą w nich treść. Pozdrawiam i życzę miłego odsłuchu. Roksana Węgiel.
02:27
Żurnalista. Rozmowy bez kompromisów.
02:33
Today I have my favorite Speedway Rider with me.
02:35
I appreciate that. And thank you. Thanks for having me on. I'm looking forward to it.
02:40
I mam naprawdę dobre memoria, ponieważ kiedy was reading your book, watching your interviews, I could see you're able to go back to so many different memories. What's your first memory?
02:49
I think my first memories are kind of like jolted from pictures that I see. There's a picture of me riding on the back of a small motorbike with my father, and I was really young, but I can almost like vision it happening. It's really strange, but I was really young.
03:07
Wydaje się, że kiedyś miałbyś traumatic doświadczony i wyrażdżałoby się do kraju. Wydaje się, że młody byś był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był był by
03:33
He should have been more aware of his surroundings, but also he was at a young age.
03:36
But yeah, we were leaving the club to go across the road to play on my dad's car yard because my dad sold cars when I was a kid. Yeah, and it happened then. So yeah, it was a pretty crazy time. But you definitely can't erase something like that.
03:55
How old were you at the time?
03:56
Maybe 8, 10.
03:59
Jak do go back home after something like that? Jak do parents react to something like that?
04:03
Yeah, it was a very sad time. I remember being very upset. I had to go back to the police station and give a statement. And I was scared that I was going to be in a lot of trouble, because I felt like it was my fault. Yeah, I haven't really spoke on it.
04:23
since it happened to be honest it's it's just there and you know it happened and yeah
04:32
Co rodzajów w życiu w życiu? Jak byśmy mogli znowu do drzwi w domu i musieliśmy powiedzieć o tym, co rodzajów w życiu i jak rodzajów w życiu w życiu?
04:40
Ja, my mam i dadi były niesamowite, mieliśmy świetne relaczenie. Chodziło się w życiu, które zrobiły wiele renovacji, co jest niesamowite, bo w tym samym kierunku w życiu.
04:54
8 houses in the last 10 years. But yeah, it was always a nice place to be. My mum was a nail technician. So whenever you walk through the front door, wherever we lived, it used to have that smell of nail varnish remover. So whenever I smell it, it kind of brings back childhood memories, which is crazy because it's not really a nice smell. But...
05:14
We had a swimming pool in all of our houses, which was super cool growing up as a child.
05:21
It's funny because all the things that happened in my childhood, I'm trying to to my kids as well. So it's strange how it works. Even decor, some of the houses that we did, my mum was like, oh, we used to have a bed like that in our old house.
05:37
And there's lots of similarities. So when will your kids steal your car for the first time, the way you used to steal your dad's?
05:45
That's a good question. I don't think my first child would steal the car, but I think my second child definitely would. But I learned to drive when I was like, I started riding Speedway when I was 12 and my dad used to help prepare the track. So my dad would get me to wheel pack on the track, like pack the track in. So I'd just do laps in the van after it made all the surface nice and smooth. I'd be driving around at like 12, 13 years old. So it's my dad's fault.
06:11
But I also will encourage my kids to learn to drive at a young age as well.
06:17
And you also have a few spectacular escapes from the police. Yeah.
06:21
I had a fun childhood, man. I was really let free to be a child. Australia was so safe. My dad used to come home and leave the keys in the ignition the whole time I can remember. I can't remember a time where the keys weren't in the ignition.
06:41
So, when I was growing up, when I used to do taekwondo and I was taking that kid across the road, To dla mnie było so normal, ponieważ w such a young age, I'd go to my dad's car yard, and I'd run around the cars, and I'd go 500 metres down to the deli and buy some snacks and some candy. There was a motocross shop across the road, and they had young kids, so I used to go hang out with them. So my dad would take me to work, and he'd be like, okay, we're going home at 5 o'clock, you need to be back before 5.
07:12
And I was allowed to pretty much do what I want.
07:15
A potem, jak się dzieje, ja, miałbym kilka run-ins z policji. Ale, jeszcze raz, to jest mi dad's fault. Został mi to motorbike, więc... Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby.
07:38
Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby. Nie ma liczby.
07:47
To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz.
07:50
To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz. To jest jedna rzecz.
07:59
Mówiłem dużo o tygodniu w swoich interviews i w książce, ale kto was jej mam dla ciebie?
08:04
Mój mam był jedyna, która stąpił się w domu. Jest to piękne człowieka, ma bardzo duże hearty. Jest to jedyna, która stąpił się w rodzinie. Mówiłem, że rodzaj był jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie, a tak jakaś w rodzinie.
08:28
My dad was that person with all their friends and the friendship groups and he kind of kept the group together because he was the hub.
08:34
And my mum was the hub of the wheel in the house. So how did your mum react to the fact that you didn't like school, that you went to school drunk and generally there were problems with you?
08:44
I didn't go drunk to school, I don't think.
08:46
I read that.
08:47
Surely I wouldn't have been drinking at that age.
08:49
That was apparently a mistake. But maybe, maybe. But you kept causing problems.
08:53
Oh yeah, I was a problem.
08:55
To problem. I found it hard to learn. I found it hard to read. The kids in class would read the whole page and I'd still be on the first paragraph. So for me it was really hard and I did really well in all the hands-on stuff. So like in high school, woodwork, mechanical workshop, sports, plastic work.
09:18
I did really well. I made a lot of cool stuff, which I took home. We had a wooden bread bin where we put the bread inside, and I made it from scratch. So anything hands-on I was good at, but maths, English, science, and social studies.
09:34
We actually made, in science we made a bong. We took a beaker with the rubber grommet in the top and we put a big pipe, a stem, we put a stem in with the cone piece and then we took a plastic pen and took all the insides out and melted it so we could bend it for the mouthpiece.
09:51
I got kicked out of school for a week for that one. And then in woodwork, we thought it'd be a cool idea to take a big post and make a baseball bat. So that also got me kicked out of school. But it was a good bat. I got to the point where I would go into... Before school started, we had a thing called Chute. So you had to go to Chute. It was a small class of 15 minutes where everybody read signs on, basically.
10:21
I'd do that, and the teacher would be like, are you going to do anything today, Ty? I was like, no, probably not. Then she'd send me to the office, and the deputy would send me home for the day, because they just didn't want me there at the end. They did that for like a month, maybe, where I went to school, went to chute, said I wasn't going to do anything. They then sent me to the office. I went home. Mum's like, what are you doing home again? I'm like, they sent me home. Pamiętaj proszę o subskrypcji mojego kanału.
11:10
As a kid, you trained taekwondo, rode BMX, got into skateboarding, and for about a year you were into rollerblading. If someone had asked you back then what you wanted to do with your life, would you have had an answer?
11:20
No, I definitely wouldn't have said Speedway, because I was also riding motocross at the same time, so... Motocross was the first thing that I enjoyed doing on a motorbike. And then we went riding at my friend's house. We saw that he had a speedway bike tucked away in the corner. I said to my dad, hey, can we try that? And he said, yeah, not a problem, but we're going to sell you a motocross bike. When did someone first tell you that you had talent? Probably my mum and dad, but...
11:49
Nie pamiętam, czy ktoś mówił, że jestem zadowolony. Nie myślę, że ktoś jest zadowolony, tylko że ludzie pracują ciężko niż innych.
11:56
Jeśli nie są zadowolony, to co? Ty pracują tak zadowolony? Ale powiedziałeś, że wciąż wierzył. Ok, tak.
12:02
Może jest zadowolony, ale też jest zadowolony, kiedy zadowolony się zadowolony, że zadowolony się zadowolony. Teraz zaczynasz się zadowolony.
12:15
Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy. Zobaczmy.
12:44
I remember your competition in Sweden, where you went for the first time with your dad. You got an old motorcycle from the 80s, and despite that, you won that tournament. Yeah, it was funny.
12:55
Petey Jansen wanted me to come out to Sweden. And he's like, you know, we can't give you any money.
13:03
But we can supply a bike. I was like, sweet. Let's go. It's an opportunity and I want to go to Sweden and try a ride. So we went there and the bike was really old. It wasn't like 80s, but it was old. And the engine was under a bench with dust everywhere. It had been maybe sat there for maybe 10 years. So we cleaned it all off and we bolted it in the bike. I put my handlebars and my seat on it.
13:29
I ended up winning the race. It was the Karlstad Open.
13:33
So you really don't have talent. But let's go back to the beginning. What were your first Speedway races like? You're 12 years old and you get the Speedway bike. What happens next?
13:46
Well, they had an Australian title in the Under-16 Australian Championship that was happening in Perth, Western Australia, where I live. i nie miałbym enough rzadziu, więc powiedzieliśmy, że jeśli można zrobić to start, to wyraźć. To jest jedynie po razie, kiedy otrzymałem się. To jest jedynie po razie, znalazłem to, nie mogłać do tego. A potem, all of a sudden, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja, to ja.
14:20
w Western Australia, w Briba Lake. Um, and the second day was like a pairs. So the first day was individual and the second day was pairs. And the person I was paired up with was Chris Holder. Yeah, so he was from New South Wales and there wasn't another rider for him to pair with from his state. So, bo nie miałbym jeszcze rynek z New South Wales, oni połączyli się z meczem.
14:43
Światło się w pełnym cyrklu, ponieważ teraz jesteś na samym drużynie jak Chris Holder.
14:48
Jestem ciągle cyrklu. Wśród razu razu razu razu razu w World Championshipsach, w England, w Polsce, kiedy razu razu razu razu razu razu na Torun.
14:58
Zobaczmy, że były razem z 2002, naprawdę.
15:03
Ale once those first races were behind you, did you fall in love with it right away?
15:07
Hard to say whether I fell in love with it. It was just something that we did at the weekend. Dad and mum would be working during the week, and on the weekend we'd go ride motocross. For me, it was just like a new challenge. I was enjoying motocross, but I'm very impulsive.
15:21
I'll just... I'll get an idea in my head and I'll run with it. So at what point did you start taking it seriously?
15:27
Probably... Seriously? Seriously? Maybe not even to this day? The first time I went to Europe... When I landed in Europe... Is when I started to take it seriously. Because... Two weeks before I landed in Europe, I was jumping on the trampolines and broke my leg. So... My dad was pretty angry because he's like, you know, we're packing up our lives and we're taking you halfway around the world to do this. Do you really want to do it? I had that conversation when I was late in the hospital bed after the operation.
16:04
So, that was probably when I realised how big it really was. Because in Australia, the sport's quite small. Really, in Australia, it is a hobby. It's something that you do on the weekend and have some fun. But then when I really, really started to take it seriously was 2011. So, from when I first started, there was a whole period of me partying and having fun.
16:33
I was taking it seriously, but also having a lot of fun on the side. Which I think was good, because I came to Europe when I was 16, or when I was 15. And then when I turned 16, then I became a professional speedway rider. And I still had to live my teenage years, right? So I was having a lot of fun and racing my motorbike, which was crazy. It was a crazy life.
17:04
I didn't get to... There's a lot of stuff I missed in Australia, but there's a lot of stuff I gained from being in Europe. I feel like I missed out on all the 18th birthdays, all the 21st, all that sort of stuff. But then on the flip side, made a whole career out of this so but when my dad died and i was in the jeep in the january and i was in the grand prix that year i wasn't ready physically mentally mechanically like i wasn't ready at all so that was a big setback not a setback i didn't really like my whole career had gone up and up and up and up and up I w 2010 roku, to się stało.
17:38
Nie było pewnie, ale to nie było żadne. Więc dla mnie, to było takie, to było takie, takie, takie, takie, takie, takie, takie, takie, We went to all the races, we travelled to Sweden, we drove to Poland, everything. So when he wasn't there for that year, it was different. And then when I went back to Australia, I went off the rails, was partying pretty hard, and...
18:08
I didn't want to do it. And I was working with a sports psychologist at the time. And he basically just made me write everything down on a piece of paper. Super simple. A4 piece of paper with a line through the top and through the sides. And it had Australia, UK, pros, pros and cons and cons. So I wrote down all the pros for being in Australia and all the cons. And I wrote down all the pros from being in the UK and all the cons. And it showed me in paper in black and white that there was much more pros to going to Europe and continuing.
18:46
And then I started the rebuilding process of my career from that point.
18:50
Ty, I know all the advantages of going back to UK. What were the advantages of staying in Australia?
18:55
I actually never kept the paper. I should have.
18:58
Wydaje mi się, że to tak, że to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, to tak, enjoy riding my motorbike.
19:27
But your mum said in the Sky Sport documentary that a teacher told you straight to your face that you'd never amount to anything. Words like that sometimes echo in your head for years. Did you have that too? No.
19:39
No. I didn't think anything of what they said, but it was funny. The first year when we was racing, wherever we went, maybe not the first year, maybe the second year, but I was racing in Germany in the Under-21 Team Cup.
19:56
I to to to to to to to to to to to
20:18
I recently watched David Letterman's interview with Lewis Hamilton, and I don't know if you know his story, but his dad left his home and everything so that he could pursue his career. Your story is a bit similar.
20:30
Yeah, we were lucky that my mum and dad both had jobs where they could literally stop. So my mum was doing the nails and she was doing pedicures, manicures, makeup for weddings, all from home. So it was pretty easy for her to just like pause everything. And my father was selling cars, so he just left. And the guy that was also on the car yard was helping. If he had some cars, he would sell them for him while he was away. So yeah, we were pretty lucky in that aspect.
21:01
But they stopped their lives to move back to Europe to give me an opportunity to race a motorbike. So yeah, very similar.
21:10
And what did that conversation look like? Because these were still adults who could have seen talent in you, but you were a rebellious kid who didn't seem like an obvious bet. Yeah, they didn't.
21:21
We had family in the UK, so my dad's side of the family and my mum's side of the family, so they probably enjoyed that part of it as well, from being in Australia for so long and then getting to catch up with family they haven't seen for so many years. But yeah, it was a flip of a coin.
21:40
Jak się pojawiłeś w Angliiach? Jak się pojawiłeś w opisie, czy nawet w książce, nie jest to dokładnie opowiede w sposób, co mi się pojawiło. Jak się pojawiłeś? Z移liłeś, w miejscu, w miejscu, w miejscu, w miejscu. Jak się odpowiedziałeś? Zostałeś w Australii, co się dzieje następnie w Europie? A potem w Europie.
22:01
We went to watch somebody race, we went to watch a race at Wolverhampton, and it was snowing. And that was the first time I'd seen snow. So it was like, I was looking out the window thinking, this is crazy. And then I was saying to my dad, like, are they going to race in this? Like, it was cold.
22:24
We went to... I think we went to Dougie Wyre's house, an old Speedway rider, and we picked up a van. That was the first job. It was a small Ford Escort panel van.
22:38
It was all we could afford at the time. And my dad knew from when he was racing years ago that you could easily put two bikes if you take the front wheel out. So we started like that. And then, yeah, just the first year was crazy. We tried to go to every single track that we could go to. I crashed nearly every place we went. Like the first year I crashed my brains out. trying to ride all these different tracks, different shapes, different sizes, different material.
23:09
So, yeah, we always had spare parts in the van. We had to, because if we was riding it, If I was riding at pool on a Wednesday, after they would do the race, we would do some laps after the race had finished. So we'd do pool on a Wednesday, and then we'd go to Swindon Thursday. We'd find somewhere to stay. Maybe we stayed at Midlow's house, and then Thursday we'd go and race at Swindon, and then we'd go to Steve Johnson's house and stay there. So we just bounced from house to house, went from track to track.
23:37
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24:02
So if I understand correctly, you landed in UK and then you travelled with your dad in a van all over Europe just to race?
24:09
Yeah, exactly.
24:10
Incredible.
24:12
Yeah, and we lived with my grandma the first year. She had a caravan on a mobile home site, but it was like over, I think it was over 60s, so we shouldn't have really been there.
24:25
You moved out of your house in Australia to live in a camper van in Europe?
24:29
We went from a two-story Mediterranean-style house in front of the beach with a swimming pool to living in a caravan with my grandma in Scunthorpe.
24:43
But it was worth it.
24:45
Ja, i tak, że to jest podróżnienie, prawda? Zobaczmy, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, że tak powiem, But not on that caravan site. It was on a really rough caravan site. With some really rough people. That was something else. That was an experience.
25:17
I've heard that there were suspicious people around. Gangsters and drug addicts.
25:22
It wasn't even a neighbourhood. It was basically. You pull off the road. There was a big pub. So you go into the car park of the pub. And then there was one road. And caravans on either side. Maybe like 400 metres.
25:39
But the people that was living there are people that have been drug addicts and they can't afford to be in a house and it's cheaper to be in a caravan. But it was cheap, so we had to go there. How many years did you live like that? Two years. Do you remember your emotions? Sorry, the bed I used to sleep in was the same size as this. I had to sleep with my legs. My legs like this. I couldn't be straight.
26:07
Because in a 40-foot caravan, you have the double bed, so my mum and dad was there. And then the child room...
26:14
Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo.
26:20
Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo.
26:29
Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo. Właśnie tak długo.
26:42
Do you remember signing your first professional contract? Peter Adams was the team manager and Chris van Stratten was the owner of the club. And we met them a few times. We actually met a lot of people because we went around every track in the country. It was kind of like, one, for me to learn how to ride, but two, to show the people who I am, what I'm about and how I ride.
27:10
W tym momencie, w tym momencie, mamy kilka klubów, które chcieliśmy zgodnie zgodnie zgodnie z CVS i Pete Adamsu, w tym miejscu, w tym miejscu, w tym miejscu. W tym miejscu, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, że chcieliśmy, I actually crashed every time I went to Wolverhampton. It was the hardest track for me to get around.
27:42
I was chatting with my dad and I was like, you know, if I signed with another club and I came to Wolverhampton every time, I'd just crash every time because I couldn't figure it out. I was like, I need to be at the track I dislike the most. Because once I master that, then I can ride anywhere. And Wolverhampton was a very technical track.
28:02
Long straights, quite a lot of material and really tight corners. And you had to really turn the bike aggressively to get off the inside because there was a little bit that they prepared. And if you touch that, you was always fast and I could never get there. Could never get there. And the big deciding factor was really they offered to pay for our flights back and forwards to Australia, which was a huge cost for us.
28:29
I also remember from your book that your dad actually wanted you to choose the hardest track, because if you learn on the hardest one, it'll be much easier to race on any other track. He was a great teacher in your life.
28:40
Yeah, he was. Him and my mum both. My dad more on the speedway side, but mum more on the life side. He had knowledge from his career, which I actually didn't know that he raced professionally until I came to Europe. Nie było spokojnie w domu.
28:54
Ale dlaczego? Wiedziałam się, że nie było żadnych keepsachów, żadnych lepszy, czy może nie było to, że nie było to? Nie wiem. Nie wiedziałam się o tym? Nie wiem. Nie wiedziałam się, że nie wiedziałam się, że nie wiedziałam się.
29:06
Nie wiedziałam się, że nie wiedziałam się. Nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się o tym, że nie wiedziałam się.
29:24
But then when I came to Europe and people were like, oh, you look just like your dad. And I'm like, what do you mean? When he races. And then the conversation started.
29:32
Yeah, I don't know. My dad was a car salesman in my eyes.
29:40
But do your daughters know what you do?
29:44
Yeah, yeah. They love it. They actually enjoy watching my crashes. Sometimes Callie puts it on YouTube.
29:53
You mentioned that your team paid for your flights to Australia, and when you flew to Australia you partied day after day for three months. Did you need to blow off steam, or were you missing that youthful, normal life?
30:06
Ja, może. To jest podczas tego kontraktu. Jeśli chcesz me przyjechać, muszę przyjechać me do Europy i przyjechać me do Australii, gdyby się wyjechać.
30:14
Zobacz, oczywiście.
30:15
Ale ja, wiedziałem, że to jest wpłynie, więc to było one less stresu dla moich rodziców, żeby zacząć znaleźć pieniądze, bo to było mnie, moja mama i dadu, to nie tylko mnie. Niektórzy młodym dzieci przyjechały się ze sobą. Niektórzy młodym dzieci przyjechały się ze sobą.
30:32
Jestem bardzo szczęśliwy, że mój rodzice mogli przyjechać do mnie,
30:37
I don't know, something just changed in my head, so...
31:03
maybe that was um me bottling everything up inside and then when i was when i'd get really drunk it would it would come out but i have no off switch so if we're partying we're partying and if we're going skydiving we're going skydiving it's like the full gas all the time um and it was always the same with drinking so There was lots of times, a few Monster parties, where I got pretty wild. There was one Monster party where some damages, like some tables fell over and some glasses broke.
31:42
So the hotel sent a bill to Monster. And Monster was like, hey, this is your fault. You can sort this out. So I started emailing the manager of the hotel. And I got it sorted, paid the bill. And then she's like, oh... Thanks for sorting that. Good luck next season, and we can't wait for the next monster party. I was like... How big was the bill? I think it was like, I don't know, 5,000 złotyz or something. But... After that, Joe was like, hey, next year when we have a monster party, we're going to put you in a cage.
32:15
And we'll pass you the alcohol, and we'll just watch you. Before the 2008 season, you signed a contract with Wuknyasz Częstochowa. Did you have other offers from Poland at the time? I can't remember at the time...
32:27
Marian Michlanka, we went to Poland for practice. We drove from England to UK for practice and it got snowed off, got cancelled because of the snow. Then I think the next day or a couple of days later, we were able to get on track and had to race the juniors at the time. I can't remember who the other one was, but Boris Materski was one of them.
32:52
I ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, And if he crashed, it meant something with the averages where I couldn't be in the team.
33:24
So that's when I changed to move to Gunezino.
33:28
In Częstochowa, as you say yourself, you had a great time. Do you know today that you went overboard?
33:32
Yeah, no, it was great. I wouldn't change anything. There was one time specifically where...
33:42
I went to Leszno on the Friday. I went to Exdemon and was partying all Friday. And then went the same on Saturday. And then I should... At this level that I was at, I should win the junior race. And then... We see how it goes for the rest of the day. I lost the race, and Marian Muslanga came up to me, put his arm around me, and went, hey, I know what you've been doing all weekend. I went, Marian, that was just the practice. Then after that, I think I got 11, or maybe even 12 points.
34:15
I beat Hample. I beat all the top boys. Yeah, so that was cool. Then I went straight back out again. Tak, tak, tak, tak.
34:50
If you were to answer honestly and you don't hold your tongue, did you ever take part in a race while still feeling drunk? I probably wasn't sober a lot of the times when I raced when I was younger.
35:01
To nie jest to możliwe, że nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest to możliwe, że to nie jest możliwe.
35:25
Ale ja, to są te times. To nie było tylko mnie, to wszystko. To było everyone. To fery, z Polski, to Sweden...
35:34
All the older boys were absolutnie smashed on the ferry. Nie ma dokładnie jak to. Nie ma dokładnie jak to. Nie ma dokładnie jak to. Nie ma dokładnie jak to. Ja, to jest jak to. Jak i powiedziałem, nigdy nie zmieniło się nic.
35:44
Ja, ja, ja. Ja, ja.
35:51
I wouldn't change it for nothing. It's a part of the journey. Were you just as good drunk as Sober? Sometimes I questioned whether I was better.
35:59
Let's get back to actual racing. You ride in Częstochowa, you start riding in the Swedish League, you meet the best speedway riders in the world. Was there ever a moment when you looked at someone and thought, I'd like to ride like that guy?
36:11
I wouldn't say I admired them, because ultimately they're my competition. There was guys that I tried to learn from more than others, Greg being one of them, Greg Hancock.
36:26
When I was racing at Chestover, whenever he did a practice start or anything, I was always sat watching, analysing, understanding what he was doing, how he was moving his body. Lee Adams was, in my opinion, one of the best riders in the world from style and how he rode the bike.
36:50
I wouldn't say I admired the guys, but it was like I would try and learn as much as I could from them.
36:58
You're talking about riders from a previous era. When you look at these young riders today, are they better because times have changed? Or do you see that, for example, they lack character?
37:08
I don't think you can compare because it's different times. The sport has changed so much over the years. You look at Extra Liga and Polish Speedway, it's absolutely incredible what they've achieved and how they've grown the sport in the last 20 years while I've been around.
37:28
Zobaczmy, że to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko, to wszystko.
37:47
You mentioned a bit that in 2010 everything started falling apart like a house of cards, but I'd like you to describe what your life looked like right before your dad told you he had cancer and had six months to live. What was your life like at that time?
38:01
Yeah, I knew something was strange because my mum came back on her own and dad stayed. So I knew something wasn't right straight away because they always came together.
38:15
But she wouldn't say what it was. And I could tell she was upset. But obviously my dad wanted to tell me. So after dad got his diagnosis, then he flew back to the UK. He actually had a bad back. He went to the doctors because he had a bad back. And he broke his thema when he was young, when he was racing. And he had the thema. He always had a platform on his shoe because his leg was much shorter.
38:47
So then he had an operation to lengthen his leg. And he thought that because he'd limped for so many years, having his leg straight and recovering from that, he thought the bad back was because of that. Now he's walking normally and his back's trying to adjust. So he went to the doctors, had a blood test, and they said, hey, you need to come... I miałem to hospital straight away. And then he went to hospital. So mum flew out on her own. I knew something was off. We were living just outside Wolverhampton in a house that Chris Van Straten had supplied for us for the year.
39:28
I wtedy, when dad flew in, then he told me what the situation was.
39:32
Your dad comes to you and says, Ty, we need to talk. What was that like? How do you deliver news like that to a child who loves his father so much? Yeah, he literally just said, hey man, I need to have a chat with you.
39:42
And we went and had a chat and he told me.
39:47
We were like, we had like a friendship, sometimes more of a friendship than like a father-son relationship. But it was the same. It was always both. Ale był able to rozmawiać to mnie, tak jak mówię, jak mówię teraz. Wydaje się, że z tego, że nie było tak trudne dla mnie. Jak się reagowało? Znaczyłam się, zaczęłam zrozumieć. Zrozumiałam, dlaczego? Zrozumiałam, dlaczego? Zrozumiałam, dlaczego? Zrozumiałam.
40:20
A potem byłem outside i pomyślałem się dwa razy. I musiałam to decomprzyć, co potem musiałam się odpoczyć. Więc to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej, to niej.
40:48
Which is probably why, when I went back to Australia, then I went off the rails, because I didn't deal with it. We knew it was happening. We was...
41:02
Współpracowało się w tym momencie. Współpracowało się w tym momencie. Współpracowało się w tym momencie. Współpracowało się w tym momencie. Współpracowało się w tym momencie. Współpracowało się w tym momencie.
41:21
Zdjęciał się, który był bardzo cool, więc byłby happy. Ale jak gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, gdyby, naturally got a bottle of Coke and he got some Calippo ice cream and he was eating all this but because the treatment had turned him diabetic all the stuff he was putting into him was making him even worse so then he got rushed to hospital and mum was like hey I was in Sheffield hanging out with my mates and she was like hey you need to come to hospital like your dad's gonna die and I was like nah he'll be alright like I didn't believe it um
42:20
I tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak
42:48
who's going to die soon. He was super thin. He'd lost all of his weight. He was drinking morphine out of the bottle. He wasn't even dosing it. He was just taking sips as he needed it. So he was pretty smashed. I didn't want to buy him anything. I felt like I shouldn't buy him anything.
43:10
...that he could use for a long time... ...because he's not going to have a long time. So it was quite tricky to figure out what to do. And I was like, my dad loves smoking weed. So I got him some bud, a lighter, a grinder, some papers. Yeah, just so he could enjoy the last...
43:30
What was that last half a year with a man who gave up everything so you could get to where you are today? It was good.
43:38
Because when I started we went to Scunthorpe. We won everything there was to win when I was racing at Scunthorpe. Then I went to Wright House and we did the same there. We won everything there. And the year Dad got sick is 2009 so we won the title with Wolverhampton. So that year was super fun.
44:00
We just enjoyed every moment. But we never really said to each other that we love each other until my dad got diagnosed with cancer. And then we made a conscious effort of saying it all the time.
44:14
And when you look in the mirror, do you increasingly see your dad in your own behaviour?
44:18
Not really, but one moment that kind of scared me a little bit was after the accident last year. I lost a lot of weight. I was super thin. And I looked in the mirror and I saw my dad when he was sick. Because I was very thin in the face. Yeah, I literally looked in the mirror and saw myself and my dad. Which I was like, fuck. Because I actually remember when I see pictures of him from when he wasn't sick, it almost looked strange to me because...
44:54
Last year, he lost so much weight, and he was so skinny. So when I see pictures, like old pictures of him, I'm like, oh, he looked fat.
45:03
But you went back to Australia, and you talked about that moment of complete falling apart. You said you called a sports psychologist, but where did that idea even come from? This is 2010. It wasn't as common then as it seems to be today. How did that happen?
45:19
I was actually working with him during the 2010 season.
45:23
Zdjęciał się od karty. Zdjęciał się wielu wyświetlanych go-kartów. Nie pamiętam dokładnie jak rozmawiamy, ale ja, byłem pracować z nim w tym czasie. Więc ja miałem kontakt z nim.
45:38
Zdjęciałeś z ludzi. Myślę, że jedna osoba, która bardzo pomagała jest Jacek Trojanowski.
45:44
Ja, zaczęliśmy pracować razem. To było w Cardiff.
45:52
I was at Cardiff, Michael Lee was my engine tuner and I had my mechanics and then I don't know what happened but Michael Lee was in the car with my mechanic for like an hour after the GP and then he came back and was like, hey, I'm done. That was the point where I then changed and started working with Jacek.
46:20
Nie pamiętam, że rok to było. Właśnie w 2010 roku. Tak, to było. Właśnie w 2010 roku. Właśnie w Cardiffie, kiedy Jacko zaczęło pracować na mnie. Właśnie w tej chwili.
46:33
To jest bardzo trudne dla niego, bo to jest taki młody chłopak. To jest wtedy, że zaczęliśmy zbudować wszystko i zbudować się na rację, i to wszystko.
46:47
Zobaczmy, że zawsze powstało się bardzo dobrze o tym, że Jacek jest to, że każdego dnia powinna być jedna osoba przede wszystkim, a tylko później, żeby być jedna osoba przede wszystkim. I to, że relationship, wydaje mi się, że to jako rodzaj jako rodzaj. Nie wiem, czy to nie wiem, czy to prawda.
47:03
Ja, for sure. He definitely helped guide me in the direction that I wanted to go. I guess you could say he was like a father figure, especially at the age I was at. I was only 20 when he started working for me. I think we actually spoke to him prior to that, though. I remember being on the way to Pete Adams was the team manager at Wolves, and we were very close.
47:33
So Pete, we were driving to Ipswich, and on the way to Ipswich we called Jacko, and I think Jacko just started working for Vysulik, potentially, when he was at Tarnow. And then something happened, I think Martin wanted to have his father back, and everything just happened at the right time. And then we moved the base from the UK to Poland.
47:59
I, dude, Jacko had a hard, like, first few years. Like, he was doing... First, the GPs, and I think it was Poland and Sweden as well, and he was living in Djejov and driving to Sweden on his own. Like, it's a long drive, especially to do on your own. So, he was working super hard them early years. Then we started to bring in some other guys to help him and all that sort of stuff, but... I was riding Jawa engines, and when I started working with Jaco, we started to swap out all the engines and change to GM.
48:35
If you did it all at once, it would have been quite costly and quiet. Zdjęciało się w tym, żebyśmy mogli zrozumieć wszystko. Zdjęciało się w Polsce z GM's. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce. Zdjęciało się w Polsce.
49:00
To the point where when we got to 2013, everything was the same across the board and Peter Johns was doing my engines. And yeah, we kind of had like two years of rebuilding and, you know, learning and getting everything in place. So when that opportunity came in 2013, I was definitely ready.
49:23
Everything starts in 2011, when you drop down to a lower league to win as much as possible in Poland.
49:29
Yeah, it was a process of like, you know, stepping back, also changing to GM, having Jaco and having somebody that can do a great job, which I hadn't had before. And even just like the work that he used to do on the bikes was so meticulous and, you know, my bikes always look beautiful.
49:51
I also remember... I can't remember which year it was, but it was the GP in Melbourne. And Lee Adams came up to me and was like, dude, your bikes are always insane. Like, they always just... And when the offer from Brotswaw came up, were you immediately on board? Yeah. I knew that was my next step.
50:12
So, yeah, it was just a process of... It sucked because we were coming off the back of a loss in Gdansk beat us in the final, which was tough. But anyway, at the end of the day, they were the better team.
50:29
So, that was my next step. Did you have offers from other clubs at that time? Oh, yeah, always. What clubs were those? Over the years, all of them. I can't remember specifically that year.
50:41
maybe it was more like you were torn between Wrocław and something else, or was Wrocław a clear choice?
50:46
No, there wasn't a dilemma, it was a clear choice. Obviously, that was back when they had the old stadium, they didn't have crazy crowds, they still had a solid fanbase, but there was many times where the stadium didn't have so many people in.
51:07
But yeah, it was nice to meet Krisha and Andrzej and see how they are as people, not as business people. But I think the initial one was Krisha. Krisha was the one that really did a lot of the negotiating early on.
51:32
But yeah, a beautiful city and... It was a fun track. It was a really hard track to ride. A lot of people that came there didn't want to be there.
51:40
Did you ever think you'd stay in Wrocław for that long?
51:45
I didn't expect to be there as long as I had, but I didn't really... During my career, I didn't really have any points where I was bouncing about. You know, we won everything at Wolverhampton. I then had to change to go into the next league. Then we won everything in Wright House, and then the next step was Wolverhampton in the top league. I to było tak, że trzeba być w Polsce, trzeba być w Polsce, trzeba być w Polsce. To było to, że to wszystko były stepping stones along the way. A potem, kiedy goto do tego poziomu, nie czuję się, że nie czuję się, nie czuję się, nie czuję się, nie czuję się, nie czuję się, nie czuję się, nie czuję się.
52:18
A jeśli byśmy mogli wyjąć 3 favorite matchy z Sparta-Wrocław, które wyjątkowaliście?
52:22
Man, to jest to wiele. 3? To jest to wiele. Oczywiście wyjątkowani w Liga.
52:30
To jest bardzo trudne, to rzeczywiście powiedzieć, że jedna race, bo raceda się pięć razy. A lot of the years, every single race was perfect. Winning the league was the biggest thing, like hands down. The second one is not necessarily for the club, but at the track. There was a race I had with Bartek in the World Cup. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
53:20
I think I only dropped one point in two days. So from Rosław itself, the city, the track, they would be my three best moments. Racing Bartek in the GP. They use it as a highlight reel oftenly. Winning the league and doing the World Cup there. But I also have my testimonial there as well. So that was a super special moment for me. So we can say four. But if you could change Do you know when I did my testimonial, we skydived in on the presentation, me and four other guys, and when we were coming down, nobody has the view I have, and there's a camera that sees it, but Krisha was stood in the middle of the center green, and she was looking that way, and just as we're coming down to land, we're aiming at her, we're straight in front of her, and I was like, no!
54:17
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54:43
If we could use a magic wand to win one match that you lost, which match would you want to win?
54:49
Dunno. Which loss hurt you the most?
54:54
Maybe...
54:57
maybe Riga GP. I took Gate 1 in the final and when I dumped the clutch my exhaust hit the ground and stopped the bike so everybody went forward and I was definitely fast enough to win that GP. I thought about that race too.
55:12
Yeah? No way. You never forget your first sex, your first drink and your first Grand Prix Series win. It's May 18th 2013. How do you celebrate?
55:22
We went to the Monster Party.
55:27
which was in Moskwa, in Torin. Moskwa's like a little underground that's kind of in the basement and just went wild. There's now a restaurant there, Kleb i Vino. Yes, yes. I enjoy eating there. Kleb and Vino is a beautiful restaurant.
55:46
I'd like you to open up a bit here, because if interesting and intense things happened in Klub Moskwa, how do you celebrate when you win the whole series and become world champion? For the first time in your career, you're a young guy. How long do you party for?
55:59
Same.
56:03
These days, it's a build-up of the whole season. So whether it's going good or bad, there has to be a point where you let go of everything you carry.
56:17
But before that season, when you became world champion, the odds on your win were 1 to 500. Did you yourself think you had any chance of winning? Nah.
56:27
I think if I bet on myself, it probably would have gone the wrong way. But yeah, I know some people that did.
56:37
Jakub Torszel put a bet on me. I can't remember which year it was. It was either 13 or 15. No, it must have been 15 because we were in New Zealand. And he thought he was putting a bet on the first round for me to win the first round. But he made a mistake and put it on the championship. So at the end of the season, he bought a new engine with the prize money, which is pretty cool. But yeah, going into that year, I knew I was prepared.
57:06
It's like, okay, I had a tough time in the Grand Prix in 2010, so let's just focus on finishing in the top eight and securing a spot for next year. Then I was in the top eight and it was like, okay, if I keep saying I want to be in the top eight, I'm going to look like an idiot. I want to get a medal. It'd be nice to get a medal. It doesn't matter what color.
57:29
I've talked to a lot of actors, celebrities, and when they achieve such huge success, even much smaller than yours, there's something like a reality check that hits them. Did you have that moment? Did becoming world champion get to your head? Not really.
57:46
I partied pretty hard and celebrated, but I think the biggest thing for me is once you win one, then the only other thing to do is win. Second isn't good enough. If you do it once, you know you can do it. That was a little bit of a learning process for me trying to understand how to be okay with not winning everything.
58:19
Like, in 2014, I think we were in Stockholm. And I was fast in practice. And I finished second behind Hampel in the first race. And I was, like, angry. I was like, this dog changed bike. And then I changed bike. And that was worse. And then I tried again on that engine. That was worse again. And then we went back to the other bike. And then it was good. And then the last race, like, I had to score, like... whatever points I had to score to be in the semi and I think I missed out or maybe I made the semi and that was it but anyway ultimately I should have accepted the second because Jarek was fast on that day he was fast and I was behind him But because I finished second, it wasn't good enough.
59:07
So then I changed and it was a mistake. So there was a process of trying to understand that I can come second and I'm still really close. I'm fast enough to win, but a second place is okay. And that change didn't happen until I won the championship because then after that it's like, okay, I'm the best in the world. The only exception is to win.
59:31
It's like you're reading my mind, because I wanted to ask you exactly that. When you win in 2013 and become world champion, then in 2014, just a year later, you have to race an extra heat for bronze. However stressful that is for you, is third or fourth place simply a loss for you?
59:47
I wasn't stressed because ultimately I didn't really care if I had a bronze or a fourth because I wanted the gold, right? So there wasn't any stress. It was just another race. I tried. It wasn't quite good enough. Nicky did the better job on the day.
60:07
But there was a lesson in that year, and that lesson was I was doing too much. So I had a runoff for the bronze, but I also missed a round. I didn't race in Voyance because I crashed in Eastbourne and broke my hand. My arm. Hand? It was my hand because we put a hydraulic clutch on to try and race in Voyance.
60:32
Nie chciałabym się w Englandu w 2014 roku, ale był bardzo przyjaciół z Piotr Adamsem i był w ramach w Wolverhampton, i był w ramach w ramach w Wolvesu, i był w ramach w ramach w ramach i w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach. W ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach w ramach.
60:55
I wasn't doing Sweden, but I wanted to be in Sweden in 2014, because the level is a little bit higher. And because Pete said that, I was like, okay, I'll do England as well. So I was doing GPs, Poland, England and Sweden.
61:12
My week would go, we'd fly to the Grand Prix, let's say, Germany. We fly to the Grand Prix Friday, fly Thursday night, practice Friday, GP Saturday, drive from Germany to Poland, race Poland Sunday, fly to England Monday morning, race Monday night, fly to Sweden Tuesday. Race Tuesday night. And then I might be racing at Pool on Wednesday. So I need to fly back to Pool on Wednesday. Or maybe I've got Wednesday free. But then I'm racing at Swindon on Thursday.
61:43
My schedule was so packed. So packed. And...
61:49
Zdjęcia mnie w Zwiedniu, że w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, To happened because I was doing all the leagues and I was tired and fatigued.
62:23
So that was a lesson learned. If I didn't do that, it would have been a completely different story. We would have been battling for a gold medal, not a bronze.
62:34
Why do Speedway riders, despite being able to race in three leagues at the same time, do you do it for the money or for some other reason? One, you want to be on the bike all the time.
62:44
The more you're on the bike, the sharper you are and the better you feel.
62:49
Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone.
63:03
Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeżone.
63:16
Was that the best time of your career?
63:18
Yeah, from a performance point of view, then yeah, it was the best.
63:26
I think every year had its own challenges. And every year was so unique.
63:35
It was just that part in my career that was going in that direction. In 2013, winning the World Championship was unbelievable. That was like, OK, it's been achieved. You've done it. You've reached the top. And then won again in 2015. And I knew, I think with two rounds to go, that I'd beaten the guys already mentally. Maybe one round to go.
64:05
I was sat right next to the TV booth. My pit bay was next to the TV booth. When Greg was doing an interview, I stood up and was having a listen to what he was talking about. He said, it's going to be hard to catch Ty now. I think it's time we start thinking about the silver medal. At that point, Greg and Nicky were my two biggest rivals. I knew Greg's head was dumb. He was already thinking about the silver. Then...
64:33
When we went up to the gate pick to pick the final, a lot of the times, if Nicky has first choice, he'll turn around and say, hey, what gate do you want? So I had first choice on this day. So I said, hey Nicky, what gate do you want? And he said, it doesn't matter, you're going to pass us anyway. I wiedziałam, że jego head był znowu. W tym momencie, znowu, że znowu, że my dwa największe przyjacióły byli znowu, byli znowu i znowu, byli znowu.
64:58
Powiedziałeś, że w latach w 2013 roku i w 2015 roku. Właściliście w 2018 roku? Właściliście w 2018 roku w Toruniu? Właściliście znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu, że znowu.
65:13
Ja, it was strange after 2015, because it was just business as usual. The second one didn't feel as special as the first.
65:27
But I believed that I could do it. It took a few more years, but...
65:34
ultimately we got there in 2018 and it's crazy talking about it because like I'm still that kid from Perth, Western Australia that came over to Europe to race my motorbike and I never look at myself as like a world champion it's Maybe one day when I'm like 50 or something, I'll be sat there and maybe process everything that's happened in my career up to now.
66:02
But have you ever been in as difficult a moment in your career as you are today?
66:05
No, coming back from the injury last year was something crazy. Even now, I haven't been 100% healthy since...
66:23
My last world championship. 2019 I broke my back. My shoulder blade. And every year since then I've been injured. And my body hasn't had enough time. I need maybe one, two years pause to let my body get back to what it was. But I can't do that.
66:42
Another interesting thread, all your world championships were won in Torunj. Were you ever close to riding for Apator?
66:48
Yeah, there was definitely conversations. But yeah, ultimately always ended up staying with Rosław.
66:58
There was also some conversations.
67:03
What year could that have been?
67:05
When I was leaving Rosław, there was conversations with multiple clubs. Nothing was set in stone, there was just conversations. So yeah, I crashed last year, so 26, 25. So yeah, 24, like during the 24 season, towards the end of the 24 season, preparing for the year after. To the point where Jezdov actually contacted me, and I originally said no, because I was chatting to Torrin.
67:38
And then, yeah, when that wasn't a thing, then I called them up and was like, hey, I'm going to drop down a league and start that rebuild process again, like I did when I went to Ganeshno. So...
67:56
Tak, tak, tak, tak, tak.
68:01
Let's talk about how your farewell with Wrocław looked. Did the club presidents come to you and say, Ty, it's time for us to part ways? How were you informed that the cooperation wouldn't be extended?
68:12
I actually spoke with Andrzej first about it. And I just said, I think it's a time to make a change in my career. A lot of athletes in different disciplines, they say a change is good.
68:29
I loved my time in Rosław, you know, I would never change that. But maybe there was a point where I should have made a change, even if it was just for one year, just to, you know, new people, different track, different environment. You could maybe say that I got comfortable there, but yeah, I enjoyed every moment of it.
68:49
Sportowe Fakty wrote that you were already close to parting ways a year earlier. Is that true?
68:55
No. No.
68:58
I had a great relationship with Krisha and Andrzej, and I still do. They've been very good to me over the years, in every level, from personal to business. It's been a great relationship. And that relationship has continued on even after I left the club, which is super nice. It shows what sort of people they really are. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff that they say on these media sites.
69:28
I actually haven't done, I think I've done one interview this year. I don't want to do it because there's just so much speculation and so many guesses and they're allowed to publish something they hear from maybe a fan that spoke about something.
69:47
There's one guy that always says so much negative stuff, and I said to him in Warsaw one year, I was like, dude, before you publish anything, call me. I'll tell you the truth.
70:00
Don't just publish something because you're going to get some clicks.
70:04
Which journalist was that?
70:05
Not even worth saying their name. I'm not going to give them that satisfaction.
70:10
In 2024, an article appeared in Przegląd Sportowy saying that Sparta wouldn't offer you a new contract because you had a weak average, a passive riding style, equipment problems. But there was also a provocative claim that you'd rather be a DJ than a speedway rider today. Did anyone at the club ever actually say that to you?
70:28
No, definitely not from Krisha and Andrzej. And they're the two most important people in the club. So actually Andrzej's son... was regularly asking me about the situation when we were having meetings because he was interested in how it's going um just general conversation and interest in my hobby because ultimately that's that's what it is you know like it's something i'm doing on the side and I don't know why I even try and explain myself, because ultimately they'll never understand.
71:06
But this is your job, but you do stuff on the weekend. And like I said, your risk assessment is different to my risk assessment. So you might go hang out with your friends and that's what you want to do on the weekend. I want to go jump out of an airplane. I want to go DJ at a big festival.
71:25
Nie widzę nic z tym, że to mi się dzieje, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to, że jest to,
71:42
Any sports person, they build you up and then you make it and they try and smash you down.
71:46
But they only love you when you're scoring points. Do you sometimes get that feeling?
71:50
No, I believe my genuine fans, the people that like me for who I am as a person and not who I am as a speedway rider, then they're very loyal. They stand by you in all situations.
72:05
Ale tak, jest sytuacja, gdzie jesteś reprezentując klub, i jeśli nie pracujesz, musisz czekać fans, żeby nie być szczęśliwi. Ale w końcu, jesteśmy bezpośredni za to, co robimy, ale bez fansów, nie możemy zrobić to, co robimy. Fans są naprawdę najważniejsze częścią naszego sportu.
72:28
Czy kiedyś kiedyś rozmawialiłeś ze sobą i pytasz, Ty, dlaczego ja zostawiłem Sparta-Wrocław?
72:34
Um, no, I didn't question why I left. I think it was, I think it was the right time. And the situation that happened in last year was unfortunate, but ultimately we raced motorbikes for a living, like... These things can happen, and you have to accept that. Whatever has happened and is happening, it's a part of my journey and it's happening for a reason, whether that's to help me grow as a person or to teach me some life lessons.
73:10
I still haven't figured out what the lesson was after last year, how I got so broken from such a small crash, but everything happens for a reason and maybe this next chapter is, maybe last year was the start of the next chapter.
73:31
But did you choose Stal Zeszów, because Falubas was dragging its feet too long on a concrete offer?
73:37
Like I said, I was talking with multiple clubs.
73:41
But yeah, after they called, then we ended up starting the conversation again.
73:50
ultimately i wanted to be an extra leaguer um and yeah the start of 2025 i was like i was fast man like i was my mechanic was like dude you look like 2015 tie so um yeah it is what it is unfortunately
74:14
Let's talk about the accident, because as you said, for people who don't know, in March 2025, you had a very serious accident, and I don't want to ask you about it like a sports commentator, because the list of your injuries reads like a war report, not a report from a Speedway match. Femur, spine, lung, ribs, shoulder blade, elbow, three liters of blood, medically induced coma. When did it really hit you that this wasn't just an injury, but a moment when you could have died? I didn't know the extent of the injury at the time.
74:41
I remember being laid on the track and I went to move my right leg and I was like, oh, that's 100% broken. When I tried to put my foot straight, I could feel the bones inside my thema. Also, yeah, with the punctured lung, it's crazy because like five weeks ago, I crashed and broke six ribs and man, that hurt like a Last year, when I broke 12 and punched my lung, I actually didn't feel my ribs at the time.
75:14
Maybe because I broke so many other bones, my body was just completely wigging out. I remember seeing everybody's face. I remember seeing Pavel's face. Pavel was the team manager. He looked like he'd seen a ghost.
75:31
John Jorgerson, one of my mechanics, was here, and Jake, and everybody just looked scared. This left shoulder was dislocated, so it was like my arm was down, but it was straight up. And then this arm was snapped, completely destroyed in here with a dislocated elbow. So that was kind of like in a wrong direction that it shouldn't be.
75:55
I remember saying to the doctors, like, Bolli, Bolli, like, you know, said to the guys, give me some painkillers and help me. I'm in pain here. Then when they started loading me up with the painkillers, then I could relax a little bit.
76:08
And then they put this arm on my chest. They put me on the board. And then they were getting ready to lift me, and I was like, stop, like, sort this arm out, because I couldn't see it. So, like, you know, when I first crashed, I was like, I had no arms.
76:26
Then this one ended up here, and they were getting ready to lift me, and this was... I couldn't see it, so I was, like, stressing, like, don't lift me. So I thought if they lift me up, my, like, arm would fall off. Anyway, so they put my... both my arms on, and then the helicopters came, two helicopters. Um...
76:45
If I didn't get airlifted and went in the ambulance, I would have died. I lost 3 litres of blood. You start dying at 2.5 litres of blood. 2.5 litres blood loss is when you start dying. So the air ambulance saved my life, basically. I would have bled out on the way to hospital if I was in the ambulance. As the helicopter was starting to take off is when I passed out.
77:15
I went into my dreams, nightmares, all this crazy thing that was happening during the coma.
77:26
And then there was the moment where I woke up and I saw Faye and my mum and Rog. And I said to Faye, hey babe, don't be upset, I love you, I'm okay. Um...
77:42
Faye didn't understand, you know, when you watch movies and somebody wakes up from a coma, they just wake up and it's like normal. It ain't like that at all. So she left the next morning, she came back and she said the next day when she came back, I was like, had all around my mouth and I was like super aggressive and like, but this is a process of waking up from a coma. It's really normal.
78:13
Also, during the coma, everything that happened in my dreams and nightmares, I thought was real. So, when I woke up, I thought it actually happened. And there was a point where when Faye was there, I was very relaxed and calm. And then when my mum came in, I was really aggressive. And the doctors picked up on it. They noticed a difference.
78:38
To the point where they said to Faye and Roger, Ty's mum can't come in. I was trying to kick her. They restrained me. They tied my hands to the bed. They said to Faye, if he keeps acting like that, we're going to have to put him back in a coma again to let his body calm down and recover a little bit more. They figured out that it was only when my mum was there. To nie było w tym, że wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, kiedy wciąż, And then when I was on the ward, there was a point where I was like, okay, you don't believe me, so I'm going to tell you from the start.
79:36
And I went through everything. And then I said, you know, then I woke up and I saw you and I said, you know, hey babe, don't, like, it's okay, I love you. Like, I'm okay. And she said, that's when you woke up from the coma. So that's how I know that everything...
79:53
everything that wasn't real but that I thought was real and my friend in Perth he actually was in a coma as well Regan Duffy he races motocross had a really big accident was in a coma like a triple hard bypass or something and he was able to talk to Faye about it because he went through the same thing he was in a coma for two weeks um We were able to understand everything, but the reason I was aggressive towards my mum was there was a situation in one of my dreams where I was in hospital and I was dying.
80:28
My mum said something to me and I was like, you're a bitch.
80:33
Now we're in the coma, right? So this is something that wasn't real, but I thought it was real. So I called her a bit. And then in my dream, I was dying. So they took me from the hospital down to this underground area. And when you die, they put your body on the pile with all the other bodies. So Faye came down and she had a chance to talk to me and say her last words to me.
80:58
Zobaczmy, kiedy mam znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się, że znalazł się.
81:25
But it all wasn't real. It was all in this period where I was dreaming about so much crazy. So it wasn't until after we realised why I was aggressive when my mum was in the room. But it was because of that situation during the coma where I had that dream. And I woke up and I thought it was real. So when I saw her, I was like, get her away from me. She's going to kill me again.
81:54
It was, dude, I don't even know where to start, man. One led to another, so it was constant.
82:06
You know when you have a nightmare, you wake up from the nightmare? I never woke up. It just happened. There were three things I had in common. My right leg was amputated, and I had a pirate leg.
82:23
um i couldn't die and i couldn't feel pain there were the three things in my dreams and nightmares that was across the board in everything so like you know that situation where i had that dream about my mom and
82:44
Zobaczmy, że znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu znowu Then all of a sudden, my body came back.
83:18
Every single dream and nightmare, I couldn't die. It was so strange. I don't know if it was some hope or some subconscious thing that was happening. Obviously, I was on drugs and very strong drugs, so there was some hallucinogenic effect that was happening at the same time. But my right thema was broken, and that was the right leg that was amputated.
83:43
all of my... things. And I couldn't die. And I didn't die. In real life, I didn't die. In all my dreams and nightmares, I couldn't die. And then there was like some really... There was some really f***ed up stuff. But when I was telling you before about like the guardian angel, There was one person, I could never really see his face. He was dressed in black and he had a black horse.
84:14
And he came in on the horse and he saved me from every situation, whenever it got bad. And I figured out that all I had to do was tap three times.
84:25
I didn't have to shout at him, I didn't have to say anything, I just had to tap three times and he would come flying through the door and kill all these people that was trying to hurt me. Yeah, it was so crazy. But then there was another point where he had a sister and his sister had a white horse and was all dressed in white.
84:45
I didn't really understand yin and yang properly until later, but you would think that in yin and yang, the black is the bad, but in yin and yang, the black is actually good. And his sister was helping bad people, and he was helping me, and he was all in black.
85:05
I nie mać sytuacją, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, w jakiej sytuacji, Tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak.
85:50
When I was telling Faye, she came in to see me one day and I was like, watch out for that lady, she's got some voodoo dolls and she's swallowed razor blades and all this sort of shit. And she was like, what are you talking about? I was like, don't look at her, don't look at her, you can't look.
86:07
To dziewczyna, która jest w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, w mieście, nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście. Nie w mieście.
86:30
It just wasn't possible. The stuff that I was saying to her was even real. So in ICU it was also some dreams and nightmares going on, but...
86:44
Faye was saying to them, hey, you need to take him off the painkillers when I was in ICU. Pretty soon after, I came out around from the coma and I was a bit crazy. She said, he needs to feel. He needs to feel what's going on. And they didn't do it. And then she came back the other day, the next day, and she's like, take him off. She said, Roger, please translate. Take him off the medication and let him feel. He needs to feel the pain and he needs to know what's going on. He'll be able to deal with it.
87:11
One of the days I woke up and I was like, don't give me any more painkillers. I can't deal with this anymore.
87:20
That was probably like day three after waking up. And then because I said it and Faye was saying it, then they said, okay, we'll listen. And they started to reduce the dosage. And then I had like a tower of stuff that was pumping into me. And I was able to start saying, okay, what's that? What's that? What's that? Okay, I don't want any more of that. And it was oxycodone.
87:45
Oxycodone was the one that fucked me up, for sure.
87:49
I had an operation in December, which nobody knows about. I didn't say anything. But before I was going in for the operation, I was like, hey, what painkillers do you give me during this operation? He's like, oh, this, this and this. I was like, okay, good. He's like, why? I was like, I don't want oxycodone. Whatever you do, don't give me that.
88:07
Yes, but tell people who don't know how quickly you got back on the track, because that's impressive. Yeah, I think it was like four months. Do you sometimes think you're crazy, even in this field?
88:17
Oh, yeah, I'm stupid, 100%. But, like, that was my goal. My goal was to get back on the bike. That was all I thought about every day. That was the driving force of my rehabilitation. It was why I was able to do my rehabilitation for three, four hours a day, every day.
88:41
It was hard, it was a process. I documented it all on my social media, so if anyone wants to go back to last April and have a look at it, but my goal was to get back on the bike. I actually wanted to ride three months after, and Faye was like, dude, it doesn't matter if you do it now or in a month's time, just give yourself a little bit more time.
89:02
Also, it was very strategic. We rode at Rosław on a slick track that was very easy to ride.
89:14
And it was still hard. There was sometimes going into the corner I wanted to go left and the bike was taking me to the fence and I was like...
89:29
Tak, tak, tak, tak, tak.
89:49
I picked the roundest track. It just so happened that the roundest track was the club that I raced at for the last 12 years, so people were naturally angry. Why is he riding there and not here? Because I couldn't get around any other track. It's the biggest, easiest track in the world.
90:07
And the track was prepared more slick for me to try on.
90:16
I wtedy, once I've done that, it was just back to rehab. I wasn't anywhere near being able to race. Even being ready for the start of this season was tough, let alone do any racing last season.
90:30
But an important point about your whole injury is that the track in Kroszno was poorly prepared, which is why you ended up like that, because if it had been properly prepared, maybe you'd have a broken arm at worst. Yeah. To jest fakt. Zdjęciał się? Nie.
90:42
Zdjęciał się? Nie. Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się? Zdjęciał się?
91:04
And when the court said there was no ruling, I just went, dude, just leave it, you know.
91:11
It is what it is.
91:13
It shouldn't have happened, but it did.
91:18
You know, because today you're saying the court could have made a different decision, but what would have happened if you had died?
91:24
Yeah, probably Andrzej would have helped Faye.
91:30
do something. Ultimately, I survived, and the fact that I survived is the biggest win.
91:38
Taking them to court and suing a club that is running the sport that I love doesn't make sense.
91:55
It's like, I love the sport. Lessons were learned.
92:00
Unfortunately, it was at my cost. But that's life. Sometimes, I like saying it is what it is. And I read a post the other day. It's like, if you have somebody that lives their life saying it is what it is, they're the most dangerous. Because, like, there's no limits. Yeah, the...
92:24
love the sport i want to see everybody succeed i never want to see anybody fail and yeah it is what it is how do you get from the point where stal rzeszów says they support you very strongly to a moment later where you're in open conflict trading statements in the social media yeah there was a lot of talk in the media and from um from people in the club and As the season was going on and I was reading these articles, I was quite angry because...
92:58
co was reading wasn't true and it was very frustrating but ultimately the main focus was for me to rehabilitate and try and focus on my body so I didn't address any of it and I just let it go and let it go and there was times like there was one time where I was sat on my bed like crying I was like my social media was going absolutely wild everyone was giving me hate and I was like co się dzieje?
93:29
I felt like I needed to explain myself. So, they got the true story. Because they were saying these things because of what they've been told from numerous interviews and articles that wasn't 100% true. So, I understand why they were angry at times. But then also, there needed to be a point where they needed to know the truth. And I thought, I'll just wait until my career is finished. I'll do another book and I can put it all in my book. Then we went to race there probably like two months ago now.
94:00
And I got a pretty bad perception, which I kind of expected. But from that point, I thought, you know, I'll get to...
94:08
I'm going to have to say something. So, I prepared the piece that I put on social media, giving my side of the story, which is the truth, and Zobaczcie, że to nie jest to, że to nie jest to, że to nie jest to, że to nie było. Nie chciałabym to, że to nie chciałabym to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było to, bo nie było.
94:42
I was like, yeah, but respect the people. Like I said before, the fans are the sport, without the fans. And it was sad that the fans were so negative towards me. But again, that's sport, and that's how it is. So I did that piece just to clarify and let people know the truth.
95:04
But before this season, was there any chance you'd race for Stahl again?
95:08
Ja, zauważyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami. Znaczyłam się z nami.
95:37
Nie wróciłem do mnie, więc to pokał mi się, jak to chciałabym. A potem zaczęłam rozmawiać z innych ludzi, szczególnie Ostrof, ponieważ z moją connection z Krzysztofem z Pwomek i Goszarik.
95:56
Your coach said that the first two matches were what threw you off this season, that you rode really well, and that was exactly what made you lose your edge for the other matches. Do you agree or disagree with your coach? Yeah, that definitely wasn't the case.
96:11
There was actually a point where they thought I wasn't doing anything.
96:21
And I was like, hang on a sec.
96:24
I flew out this day, practiced in Ostrov. There was no practice on the Thursday, so I then organized the practice myself to train in Rosław on the Thursday. Then I was back in Ostrov on the Friday. Every single day I had the training. I was also in the gym in the morning. And then from this moment on, I sent Valdec everything I was doing. I sent him pictures of what I was eating. I sent him pictures when I was at the physio every day. I sent him pictures in the gym every morning.
96:55
OK, I don't post everything on social media. In my opinion, who wants to watch me, you know, doing a training session? But after this situation, I started to post some stuff because it obviously is important for them to see that.
97:16
They should know that somebody of my professionalism is working hard on my craft, whether that's in the gym. And to be honest, in the gym I've had the biggest gains because I'm still coming back from the injury. My body is probably 80% of where it was in the past.
97:43
there's movements I can't do there's um there's things I still have trouble with um but yeah as far as like my dedication to what I'm doing it's it's still 100% things haven't gone the way I wanted them to so far um but after the rain there's always sunshine right um I'm working harder now than ever.
98:19
And I have to, because I still have a lot of stuff to make up.
98:24
But do you sometimes feel like you're holding back, not engaging in contact with other riders, because you're simply afraid because of what you've already been through?
98:33
I haven't been. At the start of the year, there was a situation, I think it was in the first match, where the fans...
98:41
Even people around me personally, they're like, oh, are you scared? I'm like, I shut off going into the corner because it was closing in. If you expect me to stay full throttle and be between them, and I can't remember who was off the inside. I think it might have been Krafchek and Douglas was coming from gate four. And Krafchek hit Douglas' leg.
99:05
If my front wheel was in between their back wheels, me and Douglas would be going through the fence.
99:11
That's a fact.
99:14
I've raced for long enough to know when the right time is to just off the gas a little bit. Ultimately, when the engine does what it's supposed to do, i drive you to the corner all these situations change and i haven't had that this year i then rode one of my old engines um the day i crashed like six weeks ago um I did practice on it.
99:50
I did two laps on it. I was like, dude, this is exactly what I've needed. This works. So this match that I crashed, you can see a complete difference in my starts.
100:02
I won the first race, the second race I was from gate 4, stopped everybody down to the kerb, and then the next race I think I pulled up because the bike was starting to slow down, it was starting to break. I actually didn't realise it was the engine probably because I've been so long off the bike but the engine started slowing down and it was struggling and it felt because it had rained just before it felt like when I took the spray from the rider in front of me that the dirt the wheel was full of dirt and the wheel was really heavy so when I was turning into the corner it wasn't driving it was driving me into the corner at a really strange place and I was like okay we'll pull up fix it clean the wheel out and then we're good to go for the next race Zobaczmy, że nie ma dźwięk, że to nie ma dźwięk.
100:55
Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dźwięk.
101:13
Tak jest jak to było. Tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak.
101:37
We thought we could save it. It wasn't too damaged. The cylinder head was good and the flywheels that I like were okay. I rode that engine on the weekend, just gone. And it just doesn't have the pace that it used to have.
101:57
So, I ordered two engines last night from another engine tuner, and he's gone on holiday in a week and a half, so he said he'll try and get it done before he goes on holiday. We'll just keep on keeping on.
102:14
I'd also like to talk about the life of a speedway rider, that's one thing, but also about how it works from a business perspective. Usually athletes get paid for a season played, but in speedway it's a bit different. You also have to be a businessman because you get paid and then additionally you get paid per point.
102:31
It's just like running a business. We find all the sponsorship. We run the team. We do all the deals with the clubs. I obviously perform on the bike.
102:46
But a lot of people see the figures that we earn, but they don't see the expenses.
102:54
To dlatego chciałem zapytać, jak to wystarczy? Co to wystarczy to wystarczy? Musimy do ludzi, mieć motorky, jak to wystarczy? To wystarczy me około 250,000 złotych do wystarczy.
103:03
Zobaczcie, jak to wystarczy? Zobaczcie, 2014.
103:18
Myślę, że każdy rynek jest to, że to jest to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to, że to Like I said before, I put everything back in for so many years.
103:50
When I first started racing Speedway, it didn't cost me £250,000 a year to run, but my bikes weren't as good, the engines weren't as good. Sometimes we bought secondhand stuff. Ultimately, you work to what your bank balance is, right? My goal was to win a world championship, so every year we just put everything back in, upgraded, better this, better that. constantly upgrading the bikes, making everything better, training plans, nutritionists, physiotherapies.
104:24
In 2024, the media reported that you were earning around 9,000 złoty per point, which on a perfect night and match would come out to 135,000 złoty for one evening. Is that true? No. More?
104:38
No, less.
104:41
So, how much? 8,000. Okay.
104:43
They weren't far off? It's not great, but it's also not true.
104:47
Do you remember the evening when you earned the most?
104:50
No. Money's not been a driving factor in my career. Ultimately, I wanted to be the best speedway rider. And there was a point where if I focused on being the best speedway rider that I could be, the money will come naturally anyway. My career's never been defined on...
105:10
On chasing money, and that's a fact of staying in Roswell for so many years.
105:16
I got offered bigger contracts in different clubs, but specifically Grujon's. Grujon's offered me a huge contract, but I didn't want to go to Grujon's and race.
105:34
My decisions haven't been based around money.
105:41
I'm not asking this to judge you for being driven by money, but also to show the path. The same way I talked with Mikhail Ishak, I wanted to show the path of a guy who started from almost nothing and reached great financial success. Because from what I found, in England you got £10 for your first point.
106:00
Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak. Tak.
106:21
But don't get me wrong, them sort of figures that we're talking about now is not what I'm earning.
106:28
Completely different spectrum, but I've come off the back of a huge injury. So that had to be expected. But again, like I said before, I probably could have had a bigger contract elsewhere, but the money, it's not about the money for me. My biggest goal is to try and get back to Zobaczmy się, że my performances are. Because right now I'm not happy with it. At all.
106:56
And you were also very conscious about spending money, because in various interviews you said that Speedway riders often buy expensive cars and then suddenly don't have that money anymore. You, on the other hand, seem to approach it fairly calmly and with a lot of distance and respect for money.
107:11
Yeah, my parents didn't have a lot. My parents actually did everything they possibly could to pay off their mortgage as fast as they could.
107:24
they worked their jobs to do that and they achieved that and then my dad got diagnosed with cancer which was sad because dad's plan was like pay the mortgage off and we can enjoy the years after and he never got to do that so I made it a pretty To jest bardzo ważne miejsce w moim życiu, żeby się złożyć, żeby złożyć, żeby złożyć, żeby złożyć, żeby złożyć w ten sposób.
107:59
Are results strictly tied to happiness, or are you able to keep some distance and say, this is a job, and at home I have a loving wife and kids, and that should give me the same happiness as results would, so that a lack of results shouldn't suddenly make you sad?
108:13
Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say it's just work, because it's my career and I'm so passionate about it. So when it's not going good, like it's...
108:24
Zobaczmy, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się, że znalazłam się znalazłam, co może być, co może być, co może być, co może być, co może być, co może być, co może być, co może być, co następnie. To jest to frustracyjne.
108:50
More so for me than anybody else, because I know what I can do. I know what I can do. So when I come away from yesterday with three points, but I look at it as two points because one was gifted, it breaks me inside.
109:09
But ultimately, we're here today. Today's a new day. That's in the past now and now we focus on how we can move forward. And that's the only way you can be. There's no point beating yourself up about it because you can't change the past. But you can change the future. And...
109:25
Zobaczmy, że tutaj we head to Sweden. I'm racing tomorrow in Sweden. So we'll try again. Maybe even potentially use that engine again in a couple of races to really know if it's completely gone or if the weather was a big factor yesterday. Also, the track was like three seconds slower than normal.
109:52
To było trzy sekundy slower than practice. So, the track was much slicker. So, I think a lot of the boys in the team were a little bit off with the setup. Not only myself, but the others as well. There's a few factors involved. It's not just one... I wish it was just one thing and I could click my fingers and it'd be fixed. And then on top of that, there's coming off the back of the injury last year.
110:23
This year has been the hardest year in my career by far.
110:27
And let's end the conversation on that note. Thank you very much, really. Thank you.
110:32
Thank you, man.
110:34
Chwilę po tym, jak skończyliśmy nagranie naszego podcastu, Tai Wofinden po kolejnej kontuzji ogłosił zakończenie kariery. Napisałem do Taja, czy jest w stanie odpowiedzieć na kilka moich pytań już po tym, kiedy zakończył karierę. Niestety nie ma go w studiu, ale zgodził się nagrać odpowiedzi na te pytania.
110:56
Kiedy rozmawialiśmy w studiu, nie brzmiałeś jak gość, który jakkolwiek rozważa zakończenie kariery. Czy to ja cię źle odczytałem? Czy ty wtedy sam jeszcze nie wiedziałeś, jak blisko może być koniec?
111:09
No, you definitely didn't miss read me. We spoke after I raced in Ostrov. Then went to Sweden after we recorded the podcast.
111:21
I had some pain in my shoulder in the first race, and it just didn't feel right. And then I booked some scans. And on the 10th of July, I got the news that my shoulder needs surgery to heal itself and be 100% with a long rehab and a long recovery. And I just thought to myself, like... To jest kolejne setback, kolejne injury, kolejne surgery. I just made the decision that it's time to stop.
111:56
It's going to be another three to six month recovery.
112:03
Then we're coming into another season off the back of another injury and trying to be right and trying to be healthy. I just made the call.
112:14
W swojej karierze przeszedłeś przez mnóstwo kontuzji. Co było w tej jednej konkretnej, że nagle przechyliła szalę na to, że kończysz karierę?
112:44
Komu powiedziałeś jako pierwszemu? Jak zareagował? Próbował cię namówić na zmianę decyzji, czy jednak po prostu przytulił i powiedział, że to jest dobry moment i właściwa decyzja?
113:10
Zobaczmy, że to jest Faye. Zobaczmy, że to nie był plan. Właściwie, że to nie był plan. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma. Zobaczmy, że to nie ma.
113:39
I'm very lucky to have such a beautiful human by my side.
113:45
Zobaczcie, później, after we announced, after I found out about the injury, we touched base with a few people, and everybody was super supportive. The people that I work with, the corporate partners, the people in the club. I think everybody appreciates me, and also, they don't want to see me suffer anymore.
114:11
Co zrobiłeś bezpośrednio po ogłoszeniu o zakończenie kariery?
114:34
poszedłeś i po prostu popłakałeś, czułeś ulgę. Jak przeżywa taki moment taki facet jak ty?
114:40
Yeah, the video was actually really hard to make. That was my third attempt. And every time I was trying to do it, I was getting more and more emotional. And yeah, after the third one, I said that's it, I can't do it again.
115:00
To było bardzo dziwne, ponieważ jeszcze czuję, że mam tak dużo więcej, w tym sportu i performance-wise. Wydaje się, że w tym momencie, to było super emocjonalne. Wydaje się w tym, że w tym czasie, w tym czasie, w tym czasie, w tym czasie, w tym czasie, w tym czasie, w tym czasie, It was a really strange one because there were so many emotions flying about. I reckon I cried 20, 30 times that day because I'd read a comment that somebody would put and it would just trigger me.
115:42
Ale to jest bardzo dziwne, ponieważ jestem tak, że puszcząc w porządku my whole career. Oczywiście, wiem, że mamy fans, ale nie wiem, nie wiem, to nie wiem, ale nie wiem, że nie wiem, ale nie widzę. Ale nie widzę, że nie widzę, ale nie widzę, że nie widzę. Ale nie widzę, że nie widzę. Ale nie widzę, że nie widzę, że nie widzę, że nie widzę.
116:05
I didn't actually realize the support. I don't know how to explain it. I did realize the support, but it just felt like it was... I don't even know how to explain it. I didn't understand the support that I truly had from the supporters, which was super nice. I had so many messages, so many comments, text messages of riders.
116:32
some of the stuff they were saying was just amazing, so it's really cool. I feel like I've built a pretty cool legacy and I'm proud of what I've achieved. Yeah, I feel like I feel like I've retired from this sport on my terms.
117:05
Obviously, injuries have taken the toll over the years and, you know, that's a fact, but after my accident last year and nearly dying, to come back and be competitive and race again was absolutely amazing. And that was my goal the whole time was to come back and I'll be able to do what I've loved doing my whole career.
117:32
For sure, if I didn't have any injuries for the next 4 or 5 years, then I'll probably still be sat here in 4 or 5 years time talking about what we're going to do next year. I'm happy with my career. I'm happy with my legacy. I'm a happy man.
117:53
No ale niezmiennie Taj, bardzo i to bardzo Ci dziękuję i życzę pięknego życia po drugiej stronie Barykady.
118:01
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